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  Saturday, 23 February 2019
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I’ve entered information for Balance IT Carnivore Blend per instructions on your site. When I entered a recipe with meat as provided by Balance It, and review the nutritional information in Pet Diet Designer the Ca:P ratios are off, and the nutritional information is not matching the Nutrient profile on the Balance IT website.

I have a growing kitten with IBD who will not eat bone in meats except rabbit so this information is critical for me to ensure she gets proper calcium and phosphorus when I supplement other meats with Balance IT.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.
5 years ago
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Hi Lisaslzy,

Okay, I know what the problem is.

First, the Balance It formulator uses a different standard to calculate nutrient requirements. The standard they use is AAFCO, which is a commercial standard based off of NRC.

PDD uses NRC, as that is the gold standard.

AAFCO sets standards for commercial pet food and the components of these foods are often not of human food quality. So, the AAFCO takes the NRC standard and incorporated a "fudge" factor into the recommended amounts of some nutrients that takes bioavailability and other factors into account, to better reflect the decreased nutrient availability of ingredients commonly used in pet foods.

The NRC standard was designed for more purified feeds where the nutrient availability is higher than ingredients used in pet foods. So whole food ingredients used by humans are better suited to the NRC standard.

AAFCO also doesn't include important fatty acids and fatty acid ratios in their standard.

AAFCO also uses modified Atwater factors to calculate the available energy of foods, whereas PDD (NRC) uses standard Atwater factors.

Further, AAFCO formulates diets for 2 life stages (maintenance and growth). So diets are not individualized.

PDD formulates diets precisely for each individual pet using the NRC standard, so PDD is far more accurate and the numbers will differ. Dogs have 5 life stages and cats have 4 life stages, according to NRC.

Balance your diet according to PDD.

Here is what to look for:

1) Nutrient Summary and Ratios are all in the green
2) The Remaining Calorie Targets (on the ribbon) should be as close to zero as possible, and
3) Make sure your nutrients do not exceed safe upper limits (see blog links below)

Rene
5 years ago
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Hi Lisaslzy,

Can you be more specific about the Ca:P ratio being off and the numbers don't match the Nutrient Profile?

Please include a link to the exact supplement you are using.

Thank you,

Rene

Animal Nutritionist and Lead Developer for Pet Diet Designer

5 years ago
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My recipe is as follows -

Beef, ground, 85% lean meat, cooked, pan-browned 78 grams

Balance IT Carnivore Blend 3.07 grams

Oil, corn, industrial and retail 3.4 grams

The Ca:P ratio in Pet Diet Designer is 2.088:1

The same recipe entered in https://secure.balanceit.com/recipegenerator_ver4/index.php?rotator=EZ
Select 85% ground beef as the only ingrediant, the website generates a recipe for a cat adding the corn oil and Balance IT Carnivore Blend.

The Nutrient Profile at the Balance IT website shows - Calcium 1.680 grams, Phosphorus 1.337 grams. Other nutrients differ also.
5 years ago
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#1622
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Hi Lisaslzy,

Okay, I know what the problem is.

First, the Balance It formulator uses a different standard to calculate nutrient requirements. The standard they use is AAFCO, which is a commercial standard based off of NRC.

PDD uses NRC, as that is the gold standard.

AAFCO sets standards for commercial pet food and the components of these foods are often not of human food quality. So, the AAFCO takes the NRC standard and incorporated a "fudge" factor into the recommended amounts of some nutrients that takes bioavailability and other factors into account, to better reflect the decreased nutrient availability of ingredients commonly used in pet foods.

The NRC standard was designed for more purified feeds where the nutrient availability is higher than ingredients used in pet foods. So whole food ingredients used by humans are better suited to the NRC standard.

AAFCO also doesn't include important fatty acids and fatty acid ratios in their standard.

AAFCO also uses modified Atwater factors to calculate the available energy of foods, whereas PDD (NRC) uses standard Atwater factors.

Further, AAFCO formulates diets for 2 life stages (maintenance and growth). So diets are not individualized.

PDD formulates diets precisely for each individual pet using the NRC standard, so PDD is far more accurate and the numbers will differ. Dogs have 5 life stages and cats have 4 life stages, according to NRC.

Balance your diet according to PDD.

Here is what to look for:

1) Nutrient Summary and Ratios are all in the green
2) The Remaining Calorie Targets (on the ribbon) should be as close to zero as possible, and
3) Make sure your nutrients do not exceed safe upper limits (see blog links below)

Rene
5 years ago
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Thank you for your response, sounds complicated to me ?

My vet recommended I use Balance IT and/or contact a nutritionist after my kittens bloodwork came back with very low folate levels. My kitten has Food allergies, IBD and pancreatitis. I’ve been mainly feeding her raw with Alnutrin. She will not touch any commercial raw I’ve offerred and will not eat canned food.

The Balance IT website came back with three kitten vet approved recipes but they are proteins she can’t will not eat. I tried to modify them changing the proteins but they did not pass the nutritional requirements. I have the supplement arriving Tuesday and was hoping to use PDD to make adjustments.

I will work on building some recipes from scratch for her.

Thank you.
5 years ago
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#1624
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Hi Lisaslzy,

Yes it is complicated. Please keep us informed as to the recipes you come up with for her.

Rene

Animal Nutritionist and Lead Developer for Pet Diet Designer

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